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Watkins Insider – Audiobook Appreciation Month with Gigi St John

In case you hadn’t noticed yet, it’s Audiobook Appreciation Month! In honour of the celebration, I asked our Digital Production Assistant Gigi St John to chat with me about the future of audiobook production. 

“Audiobook production is a relatively new and exciting area of the publishing trade, and it’s an area which is currently experiencing massive growth,” says Gigi. Many people struggle with reading. This may be due to sight impairments or dyslexia, or simply struggling to find the time to read – Gigi reminds us that finding the time to sit down with a book can be something of a luxury. However, people do often have the time to listen to audio content as this can be done on the go. From busy parents on the school run, to commuters, students, and people who work with their hands, audiobooks open the door to a new way of receiving stories. But is it really all that new? 

Oral storytelling is a centuries-old tradition. Long before we had standardised written language, oral storytelling was a central part of almost every culture globally. This was often performative, with tone, expression, and voice control being key elements of creating engaging and immersive worlds. The technology we are using today may feel new, from immersive productions like the new audio edition of 1984 with its own original musical score, to the AI-generated software used to manipulate celebrity voices as in the case of Spare by Prince Harry. However, the act and art of storytelling has been honed and revered across centuries of human history.

Gigi advocates strongly for the actors and studios she works with and holds great respect for the art of audiobook narration. I wanted to know if she believes audiobooks can be used as a tool for learning empathy and improving social interactions in young people. “The audiobook medium is really quite intimate. Most people listen solo and you literally have the narrator’s voice in your ear. Listening and relating to that one person in the moment can have a big impact on how you receive the text. Actors add a level of interpretation to the text and can have a huge impact on how it is received. So, yes – I think that the audio format can not only be a useful tool for children developing empathy, but for all of us in our understanding of characters and, by extension, one another.” 

Gigi has limitless praise for the dimension and realness with which actors imbue their narrations. “You can read a character one way on the page, then hear an actor give them a voice and see them in a totally different light.” Here at Watkins, all narrators are approved by the author so Gigi can be confident the final audio rendition represents the book as the author intended. 

A number of our Watkins non-fiction titles have been narrated by the authors themselves, many of whom host or feature on podcasts. I asked Gigi if it was different working on non-fiction with the author narrating their own work. “Non-fiction can really benefit from being read by the author. For example, Talitha Fosh recently narrated the audio version of her book, Hooked. The book speaks to her own experiences, so it just wouldn’t be the same coming from anyone else. On the other hand, fiction really benefits from professional actors who can bring all the different characters to life in a vibrant way.”  

I wanted to know how Gigi thought AI technology could impact the future of audiobook production and, by extension, consumption. Initially an AI sceptic, Gigi has been surprisingly impressed by the samples she has heard thus far. I myself was amazed by the samples I listened to at the London Book Fair earlier this year. “Digital speaking software is not new,” Gigi explains, “and it may create opportunities for smaller publishers to create more audiobooks more affordably.” 

However, Gigi confided in me a worry that AI-generated audiobooks could one day change the nature of audio consumption. Their existence could develop an elitism in which audiences will be willing to pay more for real-voice recordings of celebrity-read audiobooks, or very little for AI-generated ones, but might be less inclined to pay a middling fee for voice actors with whom they are not familiar, but who are professionally trained to bring books to life. She worries about the possibility of non-famous actors being pushed out of the industry and the impact that may have on studios. However, she strongly believes that there will always be a need for professional voices in audio production. 

Audiobook production is still an emerging space. We are constantly seeing new and creative ways of using audio technology, so it is hard to predict exactly what will happen in the next 10 years. This interview has opened my eyes to the complexities of digital production and the exciting developments taking shape. I will certainly be immersing myself in a few audiobooks this month! You can celebrate Audiobook Appreciation Month by listening to one of our incredible audiobooks produced by Gigi St John. All of our audiobooks are available to listen to now on Audible.

 

I would like to thank Gigi St John for taking the time to speak with me about her role and successes. For more blogs, visit https://watkinspublishing.com/blog/ and subscribe to our newsletter for monthly updates on new books, upcoming events and special deals.  

A Peek into Publishing: Editorial and Audio with Daniel Culver

Welcome back to the latest Peek into Publishing! We love showing you around our departments and offering insight into a wide range of roles. Take a look at our Peek into Publishing page for more posts. This week we’re delving into the worlds of editorial and audio in publishing and how those overlap in Daniel’s role.

Daniel Culver, Editorial and Audiobook Manager

How did you get into the industry and into your current role?

I began my career in Education and Youth Work before I took a break in my mid-twenties to raise my daughter. Being a single parent, I was able to get a grant that allowed me to study Publishing with Creative Writing at Middlesex University.

During my final year, I found a temporary role as an Editorial Assistant at Pearson Education (whose offices happened to be very close to where I lived at the time). I worked for two weeks in Pearson’s schools department (which was also my first foray into audiobooks) and I was then offered another two week placement in the Vocational department, where I did some market research.

My role was due to come to an end when I saw an advert for a Senior Editor in the trade professional department, whose imprints included the FT, Prentice Hall and Longman. Being both extremely naïve and hugely inexperienced at the time, I applied for the job. To my surprise, the Editorial Manager asked to meet with me, and while she told me that I was clearly not qualified for that particular role, she was about to lose another Editor to maternity leave so wondered if I might like to cover that vacancy instead. Of course, I said yes and that was how I got my start in the industry. Part perseverance and part dumb luck.

I ended up working at Pearson for several years, first as a Desk Editor, then I moved departments and worked as a Senior Editor on the International Schools list which was very much cut and shut publishing (making books from bits and pieces from other books). I hated it so much I decided to leave publishing altogether (at least for a while), working instead as a designer.

I returned to books a couple of years later when I got an Editor role at Hodder Education and then moved to RIBA where I worked a Project Editor on architectural books.

I joined Watkins in 2019 as a Managing Editor and have since become the Editorial and Audiobook Manager.

What does your day to day look like as Editorial and Audiobook Manager?

I begin by clearing my inbox, dealing first with the smaller tasks just to get them out of the way. Usually there are questions from freelancers about any number of books I might have sent them to edit, or an author requesting something. Perhaps the studio might have questions about an audiobook we’ve commissioned.

Once the smaller tasks are out of the way, I will work through the list of books that are currently in production, checking our schedule to make sure nothing is going to slip. I might have page proofs or audio files to check; maybe I’ll have to book something in with a freelancer as well.

Then there are invoices to process, or advance copies to sign off on. More emails and small fires to put out. Then meetings. Lots and lots of meetings.

This month I’m juggling an Asian cookery book, a book about martial arts, two self-help titles and a number of audiobooks, also.

What were you most surprised to learn when you started in editorial and audio in publishing?

How little time I actually have to sit and read. My first role in publishing was all reading. Reading and checking proofs. Whereas now, much of my job involves overseeing other editors and freelances, while ensuring everything comes together on time and within budget.

What is the best thing about your job? 

Being able to use everything I’ve learned over the last decade in one role – incorporating editing, design, typesetting, audio and project management.

Working on audio I get to work across several of the Watkins Media imprints as well.

What is the most challenging part of your role?

Publishing new books and audiobooks every month. We produce a constant cycle of new titles, somewhere in the region of 30-40 printed books and maybe 30 audiobooks a year, so my job is a juggling act of sorts. I couldn’t do it without such an amazing team of colleagues.

What would be your top tip for people applying to work in publishing?

Every route into publishing is different, so work on getting your foot in the door – any door (and either foot) – and then work on anything and everything that you can.

I worked in several departments, first as an Editorial Assistant and then in market research. I also worked in design and copywriting before I found my way into the industry. The experience I gained across those roles has all come into play in my current role.

What’s one Watkins book you’d encourage everyone to read?

The New Heretics by Andy Thomas and The Cabinet by Un-su Kim, they’re both fantastic in their own ways.

Tell us about a project you’re currently working on

I’m currently working on a new imprint – something completely new which is very exciting but I’m not sure I can say any more than that, keep your eyes peeled!


That’s all for this week! We hope you gained a little more insight into our editorial and audio departments. We wish those of you seeking a job within editorial and audio in publishing the best of luck! If you want to learn more about upcoming “A Peek Into Publishing” projects, you can follow Watkins on Twitter

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